President Erdoğan said, "Greece is not Türkiye’s enemy, but a valuable member of the alliance we are part of”.
In an interview with Kathimerini newspaper published in Greece, President Recep Tayyip Erdoğan responded to questions on Turkish-Greek relations ahead of his planned visit to Athens on December, 7.
Starting off by underlining that Türkiye and Greece are two neighbouring countries, President Erdoğan made the following remarks regarding his recent statements on “a new page in Turkish-Greek relations” and the “win-win principle”:
“We have a common geography and share the same sea. We breathe the same air. We are interconnected by our past. Unresolved issues persist between us. Both our countries acknowledge this reality. However, it depends on us whether we will allow these issues to cause tensions and disagreements between our governments and our people. It is within this context that I have talked about a “new page” in our relations and a “win-win” principle. This principle is intrinsic to Türkiye’s approach to international relations and diplomacy.”
President Erdoğan stressed it would be a win-win situation if problems are addressed through dialogue finding common ground, and that Türkiye and Greece have gained positive momentum in shaping their relations within this framework.
“Dormant bilateral mechanisms have been rekindled. Channels of dialogue are open and operate across all levels. Reciprocal visits are frequent. Guided by mutual trust, we are poised to enhance cooperation in areas pivotal to our countries and the broader region. The responsibility now rests on both parties to solidify, institutionalize, and promote this understanding. I believe (Prime Minister of Greece Kyriakos) Mitsotakis shares the same willingness.”
President Erdoğan expressed that this mutual intent will be formalized with the Declaration of Friendly Relations and Good-Neighborly Cooperation to be signed in Athens on December 7.
"Like any nation, we seek friends rather than foes"
Underscoring that Türkiye has never seen Greece as an enemy or a rival, President Erdoğan went on to say ”Like any nation, we seek friends rather than foes. I often emphasize our belief that any issues with our neighbors, especially Greece, can be surmounted. Recent change, in our view, stems from a revised Greek perspective toward us. Greece appears to understand that we are a nation receptive to extending the hand of friendship. Just as we have consistently responded resolutely to those who threaten our people’s security, territorial integrity, and national interests, we remain open to fostering cooperation and friendship.
President Erdoğan stated that he believed Mr Mitsotakis understands this and sees that Türkiye sincerely wishes to overcome the problems with Greece and to further develop relations. “You asked what I would say to Mitsotakis. I will tell him this: My friend Kyriakos, we don’t threaten you, if you don’t threaten us. Let us strengthen the trust between our countries. Let us enhance our cooperation across sectors – in the economy, trade, transportation, energy, health, technology, education, and youth affairs. Let us mutually safeguard the historical and cultural heritage of our nations. Whether addressing Aegean issues, collaborating against illegal immigration, or resolving ongoing problems related to the Turkish minority in Greece, no challenge is insurmountable through dialogue grounded in mutual goodwill.” President Erdoğan noted.
President Erdoğan referred to the staunch public support shown for both governments in this year’s elections, and said “This empowered us and Mr Mitsotakis to take robust and constructive steps forward.”
Resolving problems in the context of dialogue and goodwill
Expressing his belief that the problems will be resolved in the context of dialogue and goodwill, President Erdoğan continued as follows:
“Of course, there are many interconnected problems that need to be solved in addition to the continental shelf. We have to address them comprehensively. A selective approach would be wrong. We cannot focus on some issues while neglecting others. Because they are all interconnected. When seeking international justice, no issue should be left unaddressed. Above all, we must boldly discuss all problems and guide public opinion accurately. The decisive factor lies in our commitment to resolving these issues.
Our determination is unwavering. When observing our efforts to resolve conflicts in our surroundings and our ability to maintain diplomatic composure, you can perceive Türkiye’s perspective and its capability to address issues peacefully.”
Touching upon the obvious sincerity and unambiguous call of Türkiye, President Erdoğan said he believed that if Greece adopts a similar approach, free from external interference, both countries can embark on a positive trajectory toward building a peaceful future for our nations.
"Greece is not Türkiye’s enemy, but a valuable member of the alliance it is part of"
Erdoğan responded to a question on his statement “We may come one night suddenly,” which has been covered by the Greek media several times, as follows:
“Only those who threaten us should fear us. We stated that we would act swiftly against terrorist elements endangering our country’s security, and we have done what was necessary. We destroyed and will destroy the hotbeds of terrorism. That has consistently been our response to those challenging our territorial integrity, unity and cohesion, and that is not about to change. Safeguarding our homeland and ensuring the peace of our nation is an inherent right, and there should be no doubt that we will fully exercise this right against any terrorist centers.”
Underlining the fact that Greece is not Türkiye’s enemy, but a valuable member of the alliance it is part of (NATO) , President Erdoğan noted; “Moreover, we are neighbors, we will remain neighbors, and we must mutually respect each other’s rights and vital interests. The Greek people, with whom we have coexisted for centuries, understand well how affectionate we can be when extending the hand of friendship. They are well aware of the acceptance and sincerity ingrained in our culture. We want to strengthen our relations based on mutual understanding and to live peacefully in this geographical region. We are a nation that has consistently demonstrated that our words are not uttered without purpose. The Western media is in an effort to distort my words.”
Cooperation in the field of energy
President Erdoğan pointed out that determining the existence of energy reserves relies on scientific research rather than his personal opinion, and added that promising studies on this matter have been conducted.
“The Mediterranean and the Aegean are basins rich in natural resources. In the current international context, ensuring and maintaining energy security from a strategic point of view has become a key issue. In this sense, there are possibilities and opportunities for collaboration, particularly in the Mediterranean. Assessing the potential of such cooperation can contribute not only to the energy security of the countries in the region but also to the resolution of political issues. However, attempts to politically exploit these potentials pose the risk of ineffective resource utilization,” President Erdoğan stated.
President Erdoğan continued his remarks as follows: “We believe that energy is an element of cooperation and common benefit between all countries and societies and we want to resolve differences through dialogue. We prefer cooperation and we are ready for it. Hence, I have twice proposed organizing a comprehensive conference on Eastern Mediterranean opportunities. Unfortunately, the EU initially remained silent on this proposal. Silence does not solve problems. Similarly, the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus had proposed a joint processing of reserves and revenue distribution until a comprehensive solution was reached on the island. We support this proposal. While other countries in the region are also moving in this direction, why shouldn’t the two sides on the island cooperate? There are numerous issues in the Aegean on which we can collaborate. They are all aimed at fostering peace and prosperity for present and future generations.”
“As a symbol of peace and acceptance, the Hagia Sophia Mosque will continue to be open to visitors of all religions and beliefs.”
Emphasizing that the Republic of Türkiye, founded on the principles of accepting and embracing diverse cultures, is essentially maintaining a system that carries both the institutions of the endowments and the rights and legislation concerning them into the future, President Erdoğan said that the endowment system that applies to Hagia Sophia Mosque is still in effect today.
President Erdoğan underlined that the usage of the Hagia Sophia Mosque, under the Fatih Sultan Mehmet Foundation, aligns with its dedicated purpose, as affirmed by the Council of State’s decision. President Erdoğan emphasized it is enshrined in the Founding Act - the statute of the Hagia Sophia Foundation- that the structural integrity of the Hagia Sophia Mosque will not be materially or spiritually damaged; the artworks and all forms of art will not be diminished but protected; and that it enjoys the privilege of immunity just like any other foundation.
“We are safeguarding this distinguished temple with diligence and respect to an extent that is rarely observed in the history of humanity, providing the opportunity for all of humanity to benefit materially and spiritually from this magnificent monument. The implementation and preservation efforts of the past 570 years are evidence of our country’s meticulous approach to the matter throughout history. We have initiated extensive works on the Hagia Sophia Grand Mosque, following the restoration carried out during the era of Mimar Sinan. As a symbol of peace and acceptance, the Hagia Sophia Mosque will continue to be open to visitors of all religions and beliefs.” President Erdoğan remarked.
Regarding Heybeliada (Halki) Theological School
Stating that all private higher educational institutions in our country were nationalized in 1971 by a decision of the Constitutional Court, President Erdoğan underscored that this decision applies not only to the Theological School but to all private higher educational institutions in the country.
“As there was no official institution of higher education to which the Theological School could be transferred, it had no legal status and its activities ceased,” said President Erdoğan, adding that the reopening of the Heybeliada (Halki)Theological School is possible only through comprehensive legislative changes.
“On the other hand, the Patriarchate of Fener was not in favor of resuming the School’s education under the auspices of a state university subject to the legislation of the Council of Higher Education.” President Erdoğan remarked.
“Irregular immigration is a shared challenge that necessitates collective efforts”
Pointing out the significant rise in migration movements around the world driven by both political instability and various concerns, President Erdoğan made the following remarks:
“Unfortunately, criminal structures are taking advantage of these situations to profit from people’s desperation, leading to substantial gains. As we have always said, this situation is not an issue that countries can overcome on their own. After all, illegal immigration is a shared challenge that necessitates collective efforts.”
“It is important that the EU supports our country in this matter. As a result, collaborative measures need to be implemented, ensuring an equitable distribution of burdens and responsibilities to address the root causes of migration,” President Erdoğan noted.
President Erdoğan emphasized that this collaboration should extend beyond Türkiye and Greece or the migratory movements in the Aegean and that it requires a comprehensive, global effort involving the entire international community.
“We have consistently expressed our openness to sincere cooperation on this matter and continue to do so. Moreover, migration is a complex issue that will persist on the global agenda even if geopolitical conflicts cease. Climate change, with its consequence of climate migration, is anticipated to further exacerbate this challenge in the future. Therefore, in the face of this problem, we must produce permanent solutions and functional mechanisms. A holistic approach is needed to explore effective formulas for resolving this complex issue.”
“We have always been the voice of fairness, justice, and conscience in international relations”
President Erdoğan recalled that Türkiye joined NATO together with Greece 71 years ago, adding that the criterion for being considered Western or European is not confined to EU membership.
President Erdoğan pointed out that in the context of relations with the EU dating back to 1963, Türkiye is a country that is in the same Customs Union and has candidate status. President Erdoğan noted that Türkiye , with its democratic structure and the values it upholds, aligns broadly with EU and NATO member countries.
President Erdoğan went on to say “Türkiye is also a founding member of many so-called Western international organizations, particularly the UN and the European Council. We have always been the voice of fairness, justice, and conscience in international relations. It is in line with this understanding that we are moving forward in international developments, and our main objective is to be on the right side of history.”
“Our country, by opposing the genocide in Gaza, is also defending the fundamental values of Western society”
President Erdoğan remarked that Türkiye’s response to the unjust and inhumane treatment of the Palestinian people, and the way Türkiye does not hesitate to criticize Israel for actions that blatantly contravene international law, humanitarian law, and human rights, is an essential aspect of committing to this goal.
Pointing out that Western countries are adopting increasingly similar stances, President Erdoğan noted that Türkiye’s fulfillment of this moral obligation regarding the Palestinian issue doesn’t raise doubts about whether or not it “belongs to the West.”
Rather than questioning Türkiye’s orientation and position, President Erdoğan said that the focus should be on instances where certain Western countries may overlook the values they strongly stand for, and made the following statement:
“Being silent on the brutality in Gaza is the most vivid example of this. Our country, by opposing the genocide in Gaza, is also defending the fundamental values of Western society. In Gaza, the fundamental rights of people of all ages, even babies, are being violated. Is the silence in response to the blatant violation of human rights, the systematic occupation of people’s lands and homes, the disregard for property rights, and the denial of Palestinians’ right to determine their future, consistent with Western values? Are bombings on hospitals, attacks on schools, refugee camps, markets, and the killing of civilians in line with Western values? Does the directive for people in Gaza to “go south” and the subsequent bombings of those who follow that direction reflect a stance embraced by the West? And now, my question is: Who belongs to the West; the countries intentionally remaining silent on these issues, or Türkiye?”